Hearing: Microsoft prepares two new consoles at once – one ordinary and one “cloud”

Microsoft develops the next generation of Xbox – this is no longer gossip, but the official information that sounded from the E3 2018 stage. However, the details were not revealed then: what exactly the corporation is preparing, we do not know yet. Here rumors come to the rescue from insiders.

A fresh portion of information is honestly reported by the website Thurrott. The author of the portal reports that Microsoft will open the next generation with two Xbox consoles. They are combined under the common code name Scarlett.

The first Scarlett is a traditional powerful game device with advanced iron. Thorrott does not write anything interesting about him.

The most curious begins with the second Scarlett. Supposedly it will be a console that relies on cloud technologies. It costs much less powerful “iron” than in the first Scarlett – complex game calculations occur on servers Microsoft and transmitted to the final user via the Internet.

We see something similar now in services like PlayStation Now. But there a ready -made video stream enters the user’s device, and the cloud Scarlett does everything more cunning. As says Thurrott, the second console from Microsoft Locally engaged in data like incoming controller signals, Image Processing processing and collision detection (collision detection). But the rest comes from cloud servers.

It turns out that games on the second Scarlett are launched in two places at once: on a local car and on a cloud server. Both streams seem to be “sewn” into one and in this form are displayed on the screen.

Another interesting feature that Thurrott talks about is related to delays in the multiplayer. If the cloud server Microsoft, on which the game is processed for your Scarlett, is close to the game server, then the overall ping can become smaller.

According to Thurrott, the second Scarlett will turn out more expensive than other streaming devices: the console is still engaged in certain calculations, and not only reproduces the processed video stream. But the cost of the device will still be noticeably lower than that of the first Scarlett, where there is a full -fledged "iron" for all game needs.

Thurrott writes that there will be no restrictions among the games: all interactive entertainments work on both versions of Scarlett. It will not happen that the game is available only on one of two models.

According to Thurrott, the cloud Scarlett fits perfectly into the current monetary policy Microsoft: the corporation begins to push the services more. Cloudy Scarlett greatly reduces the lump -sum entrance fee, but allows you to plant more users on long -term subscriptions of the Xbox Live Gold or Xbox Game Pass.

Note that from the stage E3 2018 Chapter Xbox Phil Spencer (Phil Spencer) and really mentioned the "new consoles" in the plural. In addition, in an interview with Eurogamer Spencer It was vaguely hinted that along with traditional game consoles there will be some other devices that will provide a console level of quality. So Thurrott reports may well be true.

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Yes, you have iron logic, Monsieur.
I would like to remind you that not all at home are stoves that can run games from Microsoft at least on minimum setings. In our great power, they prefer computer gaming (although most of these such preferred stoves instead of PCs, unsuitable for heavy toys), in the rest of the world the situation is completely different. Therefore, my advice to you: do not judge the whole world by itself, but you will not be judged by the world.

And yes, there are exclusives. Part of the games from Juan still has not moved to a PC and is unlikely to get through there.

It would be nice to learn, finally, to play games, not exclusives. And yes, the policy of small ones is steering, because they allow to touch their projects both in traditionally console countries and in computer (such as Russia and the CIS countries, Germany, South Korea).

You seem to not understand the topic at all, but frantically celebrate everyone with "vegetables". Don’t do that.

In terms of prices for games and iron, PC is not so much beneficial to the consoles at the moment. Before – yes, there was a great benefit to be, but now – not a bit. You need to remove pink glasses and look at things with sober eyes. Love to pirate – so feast on health, just do not impose it on everyone and everyone, by God.
You did not surprise sales either-they often go on consoles, and discounts there are often wow what. Both PS4 and Xone in this regard are not very far behind Steam – I tell you as a user of both consoles.
Grafon and Frameite on PC are often better, but do not forget that powerful coffins are not affordable for everyone. Free multiplayer is the only thing that can be supported.

Well, offhand several advantages of Juan:
https://wild-robin.uk/ />1) Xbox Game Pass. For 599 rubles. You get a huge library of games, which is replenished monthly with new titles – and exclusive from Mikes including. And this year the pass was distributed for some 30 rubles. – quite a profitable offer.
2) this, damn, console, t.e. A device, sharpened specifically for games – no fence with any sofetina that works through the fifth point of the rhino, just launched the right game and get a fan. Do some do not even understand such obvious things?

I’m not trying now to set Xbox One as the best Ever game platform – I like to play everything, including PC. However, attempts to exalt one swamp and focusing on me somewhat extract me somewhat, especially from those citizens who did not even bathe in it.

Given the old news about the T -shirt unit aimed at cloud technology, these rumors may be very true.

A useless piece of plastic on which you can play games with sane graphics without throwing one and a half thousand (at best) bucks in iron.

OK, I haven’t looked at prices for a long time, however, it is still two and a half times more expensive than Xbox One X.

And many times more powerful.
The video chip is certainly good in Juan X, but the percent is a pipe.
Some 2600 fermented baked milk will be much better.

And take into account the difference in regional prices.
Aaa games on average cheaper than 2 times, a turkey 3-4.
And it may turn out a funny situation that the computer for 60k will be released in the long term cheaper than Juan x for 30.
And this is without accounting for sales in Steam/Gog.

Abroad there is no difference between games on a PC and on the console in terms of cost. It is much easier to take the console than to assemble a computer (and taking a computer pre -assembled will come out exactly one and a half times more expensive, since the assembly companies are poured there too much).

The power in terms of consoles is not so much solved, since the games on the consoles are usually carefully optimized (albeit at 30 FPS), which can not always be said about games on PC.

Perhaps in the CIS countries a console is seen as a useless option (what can we say about prices, if we have a bunch of people just a spirates, which cannot be done on the consoles), but this is absolutely wrong in the general picture.

It is more amazing where the ones are still beaten like you are still getting. Like a srach pc/console subsided, and on you, all experts climb. I’m “treasured” bakery 60 frames seem to me with a torn, twitching shit after 144, which does not prevent me from playing races on the same curling of 60 frames, and in some HZD at 30, I perfectly understand that the console will no longer give out there, and deliberately I go to it.
It hurts you to play at 30 frames? Well, don’t play, if it hurts. Or this is one of the variations of masochism steamed with schizophrenia? Take the console, knowingly knowing its capabilities, get the expected 30 frames, and then sit and cunt on the site with a displeased mine about which consoles shit.

Where it is for 40k you can collect such a miracle, and? Poking my finger, otherwise I don’t see something-blind, see: D
Stop living in your maniamir and naive to believe that the productive configuration is not as huge, as you put it, the amount. It’s funny to breed this dispute.

Oga, only in "Similar to the service" From EA there are exclusively games from EA itself, while Pass has a much large list.

Apparently you don’t have a PC and you didn’t touch the curling iron either, since not a single gamer who had one or another in their right mind will defend Juan) everything was merged, merged.

This heresy you gave out – all heresies heresy!

Therefore, who actually merged here is a rhetorical question ^_ ^

I wonder where you found one and a half thousand bucks, if now a pretty decent PC can be ordered with components for about 1000 euros, and this is with the purchase of GTX 1080

Consumes to Stimov?

It’s true.
Although this is EA.
The same blouses also began to score for regional prices.

The main problem of Steam Machines is not a PR, but a wretched OS and incredibly stupid price formation. Just when you make an OS sharpened for games, everyone is waiting for the games on this OS, and Valve actually made OS for games with a set of dozens of not the latest and not the most popular games from a couple. I answered about the price below, but I repeat, Valve & so tried to shove in three expensive incredibly mediocre PCs under the auspices of gaming devices (in fact, the filling of those systems at best would allow you to play in medium games).

By the way, Microsoft, at the moment, is essentially selling the very Steam Machines, they only called this Xbox One device. The idea is the same sort of playing PC according to Microsoft with a launcher for Windows 10 facilitating the interface navigation using a gamepad with a single library of games.

That well, no. Now the prices for PCs are in so that I began to play in a curling iron in general, and not just ecrases. Also with X-Yatchik in others. So not only games determine.

The best, of course, was Steam of the car, the idea was good, but marketing killed such a suitable idea. I don’t understand why Valv will not make a second attempt.

Steam Machine is the same PC and you yourself can make it simply by installing on your cow or desktop steamos

… no need to develop a console, it is enough just to launch a PC with exclusive software to the PC market, which protects against pirates and emulation .

Well, here it is, such a thing, only T-s-s-ss, do not tell anyone, but Sony and Microsoft are doing this right now. PS4 and Xone are ordinary PC only under the control of your OS.

Just nowhere is it used anywhere? Compare GTA V for PS3 and PS4. In your opinion, you can’t see where the use of PS4 capacities has gone?

Almost you yourself propose to remove the drive yourself to reduce the price of the device, but at the same time propose adding the second gamepad, which will increase the price back. In addition, the second gamepad in the kit will not solve the problem of a small number of games with support for Splitskrin, but again will force a large number of customers of the console to overpay for an accessory that they do not need.

I doubt that this will reduce the cost of digital versions, here rather the price will remain as simply a larger percentage of the cost will go to the developer/publisher/platform holder.

Seriously? T.e. You are very seriously ready to play in 2018 in AAA Games with PS2 level graphics? Yes, PS2 is a classic, yes periodically many of us are nostolizing in these old games, but let’s clean, if you look (for example) at GTA: SA, then you won’t look at it without tears. All these angular cars of cars, not bending fingers of the characters, etc.D., and t.p. In now it all looks archaic and funny.

… The best, of course, was Steam of the car, the idea was good, but marketing killed such a suitable idea. I don’t understand why Valv will not make a second attempt.

Steam Machines – it was complete nonsense! Than so they were the best? The fact that mediocre PC, running Linux, complete with one and a half games, sold in three expensive?

Similar Bugurt is now happening with Xbox One – many sectarians Sony (emphasized – sectarians, And not decent owners) condemn the buyers of this console, they say "there are no exclusives on it, not what we have". And this despite the fact that they did not even see her live.

And the situation around the previous generation of consoles was due to a slightly different factor – on the Xbox 360 piracy was much more developed, unlike PS3. And this is one of the reasons why many sectarians Microsoft took up arms against the Japanese console and began to twist their finger at the temple.

Another example of Uncharted 3 and Uncharted 4, games originally developed for different generations of consoles and, as it were, technically, the difference is huge between them.

This is. There is a gameplay, but there is graphony. And the gameplay of most modern games can be realized on the gland PS3-K360. The Juan and PS4 generation – does not make any differences in the gameplay, only increasing permission, smoothing and incomprehensibility.
Only above I already said that the graphon costs money, and there would be consoles with old pieces, more by the developer could afford to be competitive.

Ponging a bad example, since his gameplay is limited by his iron.

In general, this dispute will not lead to anything, so I will simply write:

In general, the concept of capitalism is completely and completely built on selling what you like. Retronscols are still sold and quite successfully. Kurrentgen consoles dominate only in those countries where the office of the console manufacturer is located. Hbox – in the USA. Svitch and PS in Japan. There corporations can provide sales through aggressive advertising. Countries where the advertising is not so strong, PC prevails, since people do not buy consoles, because they do not need them for a couple of exclusives, so that then this iron is idle, unlike PC.

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